In het NCRV-televisieprogramma "Marc Marie in het wild" wordt er met een terreinwagen gereden, waarvan ik niet kan achterhalen van welk merk deze is (misschien A.I.L.).
Heeft er iemand enig idee ?
Voertuig Marc Marie
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Summerwind
Re: Voertuig Marc Marie
Inderdaad. Ik had jou al verwacht omdat jij altijd de modellen kent.
Ik heb niet zo direct een foto of film, maar als je wilt kijken bij NCRV marc marie enz., dan kun je ze bij uitzending gemist rond zien toeren. Afgelopen dinsdag was het voertuig vaak in beeld.
Ik heb niet zo direct een foto of film, maar als je wilt kijken bij NCRV marc marie enz., dan kun je ze bij uitzending gemist rond zien toeren. Afgelopen dinsdag was het voertuig vaak in beeld.
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Exfietser
Re: Voertuig Marc Marie
Is dat niet zo'n russische jeep kopie. Was volgens mij ook te zien in het vpro programma van moskou naar magadan.
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Ik dacht een uaz of gaz ofzo.
Arnold.
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Ik dacht een uaz of gaz ofzo.
Arnold.
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Frans Bonnes
Re: Voertuig Marc Marie
Het is volgens mij, lijkt er tenminste verdacht veel op, een Toyota BJ 40.
Google daar maar eens op, afbeeldingen.
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Google daar maar eens op, afbeeldingen.
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pp!
Re: Voertuig Marc Marie
is een UAZ:
klikkkk
en dat deze op een FJ lijkt, klopt helemaal:
The UAZ 4x4
The UAZ "469" or "4x4" is the only Russian car that has had good success in the Western market. The UAZ 4x4 is worthy to have an important place in the 4x4 history, like the "rival" Jeep and the British Land Rover.
History
The UAZ ("Ulyanovskiy Avtomobilnyi Zavod", that means "Automotive Factory of Ulyanovsk" was founded in the 1941. The first activity of the UAZ was the production of ZIS and GAZ lorries under license ("ZIS" was the first name of the ZIL, factory of trucks and limousines). The first 4x4 produced, the UAZ "69", is simply a clone of the GAZ "69", with a side-valves engine, 2200 cc. In the 1958, the first UAZ-engineered vehicle was realized: the truck/minibus "450", which evolutions are produced still today.
The "469" had several special versions: the anphibious version, called "3907", or "Jaguar". Also Lada and LUAZ realized anphibious versions of their models; unfortunately, the UAZ "3907" never reached the production.
The UAZ "469" was sold in Europe, obtaining a good success especially during the '80s, with the explosion of the off-road market. It's a vehicle still very good in the off-road practice, with unique military features, as the double fuel tank (40+40 liters!) and the rear niche that contains the grilles for the headlights. The worst "enemy" of this Russian "soldier" is the rust: but with a regular maintainance, the "469" offers to the owner the pleasure of the real off-road drive! Also several improved versions were realized by the importers: in the first and second pics above, two version realized by the Italian importer "Martorelli", equipped with an Italian VM turbodiesel engine (or Peugeot 2.5 TD, 90 hp, and also Fiat 2.0 DOHC).
Between the late '80s an the early '90s, the UAZ factory realized a new military prototype to replace the legendary "469": the "3172", with a look very similar to the Toyota FJ Cruiser. The suspensions were with helic springs, and not with the leaf springs of the old model. Intended for a massive production, this vehicle passed the last pre-production tests in 1993, but the crisis of the Red Army -main committent of the Ulyanovsk factory- stopped the new project.
The Beijing "212", like the UAZ "469", was presented in the early '60s, and produced after some year. Produced only for the Chinese army until some year ago, the Beijing are now produced also for the civil market. Above, the new versions, called "2020" (first, second and third pics above; in the fourth pic, the beautiful "2020 Kuangcao ST", with several improvements, as the alloy wheels, the front disk brakes, new shock-absorbers, colllapsable steering column, lighter clutch and...a gearbox with 4 speeds (at least, not three!). With 85 hp, the factory declares a "rapid" acceleration in 16, 5 seconds, but from 0 to 60 km/h! The Beijing produces also the Jeep Cherokee under license, and the "Heroic", a Jeep-based 4x4; therefore, curiously, Soviet and American production are still both present in the Beijing's range of models (see the page about the Chinese cars).
Recent models
The "469" is still in production (in Russia it's called "3151", and it has been updated with new engines, as the new Russian ZMZ 2.5 16V, with 150 hp, mounted under the cowl of the new "Bars" version, equipped with a "real" dashboard , and more "civil" seats. In the third and fourth pics, the "Sport" version, with a shortened base and without doors (Jeep Renegade style)! The more recent version (launched at the Moscow Show 2002), with the grille painted in the same color of the coachwork and with other improvements.
But the future of the UAZ is is the "Simbir" (in Russian this means "leopard"; it's also named "3160" or "3162", according to the short and long wheelbase versions), launched in the far 1993, but produced only since 1998. The power in the several versions, goes from 90 to 120 hp. There are also the ZMZ 2.5 16V engine (150 hp) and the italian VM turbodiesel (124 hp). Like the prototype "3172", the suspension are with helic springs, differently from the "469" that has the leaf springs.
Recently, some new version of the "Simbir" has been realized: the "2362" pick-up, and the "2760" with an high plastic roof (third pic). A newer version of the 5-door and pick-up versions, launched in the 2001, with a beautiful front grille and modern headlights: very better than the previous version (a bit outdated about the design), but it's still in the pre-production stage.
On the base of the "evergreen" UAZ 469, a little Russian factory, the "Dragon Motor", produces two interesting 4x4 models in limited series, in two ex-military plants located in the cities of Aginskoje (Siberia) and S. Petersburg. The first model is the "Jump", a sort of hybrid between a dune-buggy and a classic jeep: roof and doors can be removed, the coachwork is in no-painted fiberglass (the paint is incorporated in the plastic material). The "Astero", instead, is a luxury off-road, with a rich equipment (air conditioning, leather interiors), intended also for the on-road use. Both are based on the UAZ's chassis; the engine can be the old UAZ, the GAZ V8 with 200 hp (the same of the "Tchaika" limousines) or the new ZMZ 2.5 16 valves, with 150 hp. If produced directly by the UAZ, these 4x4 could be a good opportunity for the Ulyanovsk factory.
The last UAZ novelty: the "3165-Simba", 4WD van intended for the replacement of the old minibus series (born in the 1958!). The prototype was recently restyled; the engine is the (very) old four-cylinder of the "469", but increased to 2700 cc, and boosted up to 128 hp. Currently, the UAZ are imported in few exemplars in Europe (the new laws about the safety makes the Russian 4x4 totally out of the market). Also the new model is still not imported in Italy. But a joint-venture was signed by the UAZ and the De Tomaso (Italian factory of luxury sport cars), to produce the "Simbir" in a new plant located in the city of Gioia Tauro (South Italy).
Farther up the road
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klikkkk
en dat deze op een FJ lijkt, klopt helemaal:
The UAZ 4x4
The UAZ "469" or "4x4" is the only Russian car that has had good success in the Western market. The UAZ 4x4 is worthy to have an important place in the 4x4 history, like the "rival" Jeep and the British Land Rover.
History
The UAZ ("Ulyanovskiy Avtomobilnyi Zavod", that means "Automotive Factory of Ulyanovsk" was founded in the 1941. The first activity of the UAZ was the production of ZIS and GAZ lorries under license ("ZIS" was the first name of the ZIL, factory of trucks and limousines). The first 4x4 produced, the UAZ "69", is simply a clone of the GAZ "69", with a side-valves engine, 2200 cc. In the 1958, the first UAZ-engineered vehicle was realized: the truck/minibus "450", which evolutions are produced still today.
The "469" had several special versions: the anphibious version, called "3907", or "Jaguar". Also Lada and LUAZ realized anphibious versions of their models; unfortunately, the UAZ "3907" never reached the production.
The UAZ "469" was sold in Europe, obtaining a good success especially during the '80s, with the explosion of the off-road market. It's a vehicle still very good in the off-road practice, with unique military features, as the double fuel tank (40+40 liters!) and the rear niche that contains the grilles for the headlights. The worst "enemy" of this Russian "soldier" is the rust: but with a regular maintainance, the "469" offers to the owner the pleasure of the real off-road drive! Also several improved versions were realized by the importers: in the first and second pics above, two version realized by the Italian importer "Martorelli", equipped with an Italian VM turbodiesel engine (or Peugeot 2.5 TD, 90 hp, and also Fiat 2.0 DOHC).
Between the late '80s an the early '90s, the UAZ factory realized a new military prototype to replace the legendary "469": the "3172", with a look very similar to the Toyota FJ Cruiser. The suspensions were with helic springs, and not with the leaf springs of the old model. Intended for a massive production, this vehicle passed the last pre-production tests in 1993, but the crisis of the Red Army -main committent of the Ulyanovsk factory- stopped the new project.
The Beijing "212", like the UAZ "469", was presented in the early '60s, and produced after some year. Produced only for the Chinese army until some year ago, the Beijing are now produced also for the civil market. Above, the new versions, called "2020" (first, second and third pics above; in the fourth pic, the beautiful "2020 Kuangcao ST", with several improvements, as the alloy wheels, the front disk brakes, new shock-absorbers, colllapsable steering column, lighter clutch and...a gearbox with 4 speeds (at least, not three!). With 85 hp, the factory declares a "rapid" acceleration in 16, 5 seconds, but from 0 to 60 km/h! The Beijing produces also the Jeep Cherokee under license, and the "Heroic", a Jeep-based 4x4; therefore, curiously, Soviet and American production are still both present in the Beijing's range of models (see the page about the Chinese cars).
Recent models
The "469" is still in production (in Russia it's called "3151", and it has been updated with new engines, as the new Russian ZMZ 2.5 16V, with 150 hp, mounted under the cowl of the new "Bars" version, equipped with a "real" dashboard , and more "civil" seats. In the third and fourth pics, the "Sport" version, with a shortened base and without doors (Jeep Renegade style)! The more recent version (launched at the Moscow Show 2002), with the grille painted in the same color of the coachwork and with other improvements.
But the future of the UAZ is is the "Simbir" (in Russian this means "leopard"; it's also named "3160" or "3162", according to the short and long wheelbase versions), launched in the far 1993, but produced only since 1998. The power in the several versions, goes from 90 to 120 hp. There are also the ZMZ 2.5 16V engine (150 hp) and the italian VM turbodiesel (124 hp). Like the prototype "3172", the suspension are with helic springs, differently from the "469" that has the leaf springs.
Recently, some new version of the "Simbir" has been realized: the "2362" pick-up, and the "2760" with an high plastic roof (third pic). A newer version of the 5-door and pick-up versions, launched in the 2001, with a beautiful front grille and modern headlights: very better than the previous version (a bit outdated about the design), but it's still in the pre-production stage.
On the base of the "evergreen" UAZ 469, a little Russian factory, the "Dragon Motor", produces two interesting 4x4 models in limited series, in two ex-military plants located in the cities of Aginskoje (Siberia) and S. Petersburg. The first model is the "Jump", a sort of hybrid between a dune-buggy and a classic jeep: roof and doors can be removed, the coachwork is in no-painted fiberglass (the paint is incorporated in the plastic material). The "Astero", instead, is a luxury off-road, with a rich equipment (air conditioning, leather interiors), intended also for the on-road use. Both are based on the UAZ's chassis; the engine can be the old UAZ, the GAZ V8 with 200 hp (the same of the "Tchaika" limousines) or the new ZMZ 2.5 16 valves, with 150 hp. If produced directly by the UAZ, these 4x4 could be a good opportunity for the Ulyanovsk factory.
The last UAZ novelty: the "3165-Simba", 4WD van intended for the replacement of the old minibus series (born in the 1958!). The prototype was recently restyled; the engine is the (very) old four-cylinder of the "469", but increased to 2700 cc, and boosted up to 128 hp. Currently, the UAZ are imported in few exemplars in Europe (the new laws about the safety makes the Russian 4x4 totally out of the market). Also the new model is still not imported in Italy. But a joint-venture was signed by the UAZ and the De Tomaso (Italian factory of luxury sport cars), to produce the "Simbir" in a new plant located in the city of Gioia Tauro (South Italy).
Farther up the road
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Exfietser
Re: Voertuig Marc Marie
Ik denk dat Frans gelijk heeft. De neus en het dash kloppen niet helemaal met de uaz.
Dit is een toyota dash:
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Dit is een toyota dash:
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Summerwind
Re: Voertuig Marc Marie
Heel goed mannen (en Frans in het bijzonder).
Het is inderdaad de Toyota BJ 40 (RHD) en ik herken het dashboard nu ook.
Weer een raadsel opgelost, zodat ik weer rustig kan slapen.
Bedankt !
Het is inderdaad de Toyota BJ 40 (RHD) en ik herken het dashboard nu ook.
Weer een raadsel opgelost, zodat ik weer rustig kan slapen.
Bedankt !
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Roland88
Re: Voertuig Marc Marie
Dag allen,
Het voertuig dat gebruikt wordt is inderdaad een Landcruiser FJ40 (ik meen dat de BJ aanduiding voor de dieseluitvoering staat). In dit exemplaar was een wat sterkere motor geplaatst met een 4 versnellingenbak. Origineel was dit een 3 bak. Ben zelf bij de productie betrokken geweest en heb heel wat kilometers met het ding gestuurd. (...heb ter plekke zelfs geroepen dat ik hem zo voor m'n 88 SIII zou ruilen. Maar geen paniek, weer thuis zou ik dat niet meer willen. ) Overigens was de wagen op de motor na in standaard staat. Oftewel ook de originele bedrading. Het resultaat was dat de lichten of uitvielen of niet meer uit wilde, bedrading naar de startmotor in de fik etc.. Alleen de ruitenwissers bleven het goed doen. De rest was iedere keer afwachten. Maargoed, in Africa is alles met wat bush mecanics op te lossen. Op de foto zit de kap op de wagen. Deze is in beeld echter nooit te zien. (Officieel is dit in de parken wel verplicht.)
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Groeten,
Roland Prinsen
Het voertuig dat gebruikt wordt is inderdaad een Landcruiser FJ40 (ik meen dat de BJ aanduiding voor de dieseluitvoering staat). In dit exemplaar was een wat sterkere motor geplaatst met een 4 versnellingenbak. Origineel was dit een 3 bak. Ben zelf bij de productie betrokken geweest en heb heel wat kilometers met het ding gestuurd. (...heb ter plekke zelfs geroepen dat ik hem zo voor m'n 88 SIII zou ruilen. Maar geen paniek, weer thuis zou ik dat niet meer willen. ) Overigens was de wagen op de motor na in standaard staat. Oftewel ook de originele bedrading. Het resultaat was dat de lichten of uitvielen of niet meer uit wilde, bedrading naar de startmotor in de fik etc.. Alleen de ruitenwissers bleven het goed doen. De rest was iedere keer afwachten. Maargoed, in Africa is alles met wat bush mecanics op te lossen. Op de foto zit de kap op de wagen. Deze is in beeld echter nooit te zien. (Officieel is dit in de parken wel verplicht.)
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Groeten,
Roland Prinsen