haha hier is wat correspondentie (haal ik mijn kennis over 3000 en 9000 ook tui) tussen mij en Nigel van Gon2far over "shocks". Nigel is in mijn ogen 1 van DE experts wbt bladveren onder series in de UK.
Cheers bowy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hello Bowy
Ive known you a while now and I cant ever imagine selling you anything other than ideas
How about posting a link to my website from your website as a favour?
The ES9000 shocks are a lot stiffer than the ES3000 because they are positively charged. If you compress an ES3000 shock it will stay where it is but if you do the same with an ES9000 you will find that it will just push itself back out to full extension. In doing so it exerts quite a lot of pressure (making them tricky little sods to fit) thus making for a stiffer ride.
If you are running standard shocks at the moment you would find quite a diferance with the ES9000.
Getting pulled by the police doesnt sound much fun but stiffening the suspension up will only loose you travel off road.
I have had some adjustable limit straps made up to experiment with which you may be interested in trying. The idea being that if you could limit the down travel on the axle it would hold the vehicle more level in a corner. I read about it in a race car suspension dynamics book so it needs some experimenting before I would put it forward as a definate idea to cure roll but the theory looked like it would apply to us.
How about some details and picks of your Double cardan propshaft conversion and how is it working out for you.
Regards Nigel
GON2FAR Suspension ltd
Tel 0781 271 7550
>From: "Bowy Odink" <bowy12@hotmail.com>
>To: "Nigel Aldred" <gon2farsuspensiondesign@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Shocks
>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:55:20 +0100
>
>Hi Nigel,
>
>You know me quite a bit I rather make things myself then pay a lot for
>it. (probably very good stuff you offer, but I can maken it cheaper myself I
>think and that's half of the fun....) If I use your design I offcourse will
>give credits to Gon2Far I think you're runnning a great business and are
>most helpfull!
>
>Do you know if the Es9000 are stiffer then Es3000? What is the difference?
>
>Len is not a very bad thing but I;ve been pulled over twice in a month now
>because the officers think it's to much and dangerous.....
>
>Cheers Bowy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Nigel Aldred" <gon2farsuspensiondesign@hotmail.com>
>To: <bowy12@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 7:51 PM
>Subject: Re: Shocks
>
>
> > Hello Bowy
> >
> > I sort of pressumed I wouldnt be able to tempt you with the shock mounts
>but they do work well and are a guaranteed way to longer travel shocks.
> >
> > The ES9000 series shocks are Nitrogen charged and when fitted to a SWB are
>quite stiff they would proberbly firm the ride up a fair bit. My SWB is a
>bit to stiff for me with them fitted but it is pretty light with no top and
>no recovery gear in it.
> >
> > If you copy my ideas and designs I would just like to see you giving
>GON2FAR the credit for the ideas. You wouldnt be the first I even had a
>bloke that was so pleased with his copy of my designs that he sent me photos
>for my aproval and is currently trying to get me to give him an explanation
>of the shock mounts!!!!!
> >
> > Is the lean on corners a bad thing? My 109 leans like mad but if you
>accelerate hard into and through the corners it runs round them nice and
>stable. Even to the point of drifting quite nicely if pushed hard enough.
>That said picking up a rear wheel on round abouts is a good way of upsetting
>passengers (but I cant say it bothers me) perhaps its just the extra wheel
>base that helps.
> >
> > Regards Nigel
> > GON2FAR Suspension ltd
> >
> > Tel 0781 271 7550
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bowy ." <bowy12@hotmail.com>
> > >To: gon2farsuspensiondesign@hotmail.com
> > >Subject: Re: Shocks
> > >Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:36:37 +0100
> > >
> > >Hi Nigel,
> > >
> > >To bad I thought that all 9000 were adjustable..... I need them I think
>because my Serious leans way yo much in te corners. already brought my shock
>mounts up. but on the side of the chassis.... so I do need the longer
>stiffer shocks.
> > >
> > >Thanx for all the prices! It's a lot of money, but probably worth it. I
>think I have to save up a little more and look around at Billings (will you
>be there to?) were I will be going this summer
> > >
> > >Maybe I have to think about relocating my shock point. will have a look
>on your site to see if I can find out how you did that....
> > >
> > >Cheers Bowy
> > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >
> > >Hello Bowy
> > >
> > >We sell ES9000 Pro Comp shocks for £35.00 each whatever the length you
>want.
> > >
> > >These shocks are not adjustable.
> > >
> > >Pro Comp do a range of adjustable shocks but the range of lengths is not
>as great and the price is close to £90.00 each.
> > >
> > >We can supply shocks in almost any length up to 36" extended length
>giving aproximately 15" of travel.
> > >
> > >In the suspension kits we use 32" extended length shocks at the front and
>26" extended length shocks at the rear. The rear shocks are shorter because
>they are laid down at an angle to fit into the space under the floor. The
>angle gives them a longer travel.
> > >
> > >To fit shocks like these you would need to build fully custom mounts.
> > >
> > >If you look on the website you will see that we offer complete shock
>mounting kits both front and rear which include everything you need to fit
>these long shocks without having to design it all yourself.
> > >
> > >4 ES9000 shocks £140.00
> > >Front shock mount kit £195.00
> > >Rear shock mount kit £145.00
> > >
> > >Total £480.00
> > >
> > >Should you want just the shocks the prices would be -
> > >
> > >4 ES9000 shocks £140.00
> > >
> > >Look forwards to hearing from you.
> > >
> > >Regards Nigel
> > >GON2FAR Suspension ltd
> > >
> > >Tel 0781 271 7550
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Bowy Odink" <bowy12@hotmail.com>
> > >To: "Nigel Aldred" <gon2farsuspensiondesign@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: Re: 11A lift job
> > >Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:55:25 +0100
> > >
> > >Hi Nigel,
> > >
> > >Long time since I talked to you.
> > >
> > >I've got a bit of funds again available again so I would like to buy some
> > >Procomp 9000 (adjustable) shocks. In which lengths can you supply them??
>(in
> > >about 15 inch in extended as long as possible.....)
> > >
> > >and what do they cost?
> > >
> > >Cheers Bowy
> > >
> >
> >